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Bad condition M35 SE64
Quote from FLN on January 17, 2022, 2:56 amHi
I'm just a very small collector, but want to learn. I just bought a helmet for fun, it was painted with some silver paint, removed that, a thick black paint underneath that, I got to the green paint. Found the markings SE64, but the "E" looked like it had a bad indentation in the steel. Found the lot number, but almost unreadable, seems it start with a 4.. maybe 435? 433? But maybe it could be 4 digits, difficult to say.
The are no leather attached to the lining, but on the outside of the lining reads "B&C BERLIN 1940" with one D ring, and with the other D ring its stamped "64.A./57" On the inner side it reads "64/57". And all 3 rivets or lining pins if you will are marked on the inside of one pin with "BUC 40"
And under on the helmets left side (if you are wearing it) Under the paint I can see outlining of a decal, but none on the right side.
What are your thoughts on this? I'm just interested to learn, this is a worthless helmet, but a bit interesting to me.
And excuse my English, I'm Norwegian, do not hold it against me.
Best regards
Max
Hi
I'm just a very small collector, but want to learn. I just bought a helmet for fun, it was painted with some silver paint, removed that, a thick black paint underneath that, I got to the green paint. Found the markings SE64, but the "E" looked like it had a bad indentation in the steel. Found the lot number, but almost unreadable, seems it start with a 4.. maybe 435? 433? But maybe it could be 4 digits, difficult to say.
The are no leather attached to the lining, but on the outside of the lining reads "B&C BERLIN 1940" with one D ring, and with the other D ring its stamped "64.A./57" On the inner side it reads "64/57". And all 3 rivets or lining pins if you will are marked on the inside of one pin with "BUC 40"
And under on the helmets left side (if you are wearing it) Under the paint I can see outlining of a decal, but none on the right side.
What are your thoughts on this? I'm just interested to learn, this is a worthless helmet, but a bit interesting to me.
And excuse my English, I'm Norwegian, do not hold it against me.
Best regards
Max
Quote from schwerpunkt73 on January 17, 2022, 5:31 pmWelcome Max , please post photos so we can see what we you are talking about.
Most of us are from different parts of the world so no issue being from Norway 🙂
Welcome Max , please post photos so we can see what we you are talking about.
Most of us are from different parts of the world so no issue being from Norway 🙂
Quote from FLN on January 19, 2022, 10:46 amhi
Thank you for that, most appreciated. I didn't want to bombard you with pictures at my first post, wanted to know if there was som interest first.
Info about the lot nr: it's very difficult to take a decent picture of it, if you zoom out maybe, eyes on in correct light it starts with a 4..... 36.. maybe 486 something, I can't tell for sure. But here are som pictures, hope they can be somewhat helpful
hi
Thank you for that, most appreciated. I didn't want to bombard you with pictures at my first post, wanted to know if there was som interest first.
Info about the lot nr: it's very difficult to take a decent picture of it, if you zoom out maybe, eyes on in correct light it starts with a 4..... 36.. maybe 486 something, I can't tell for sure. But here are som pictures, hope they can be somewhat helpful
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Quote from schwerpunkt73 on January 19, 2022, 2:59 pmAll the parts (pins , liner band , chinstrap) are all authentic WW2.
The shell too of course but as it was silver it was probably a biker helmet at one time. Personally helmets where paint needs to be removed don't hold much interest for me as they will never look like how they should look. The chemicals make the paint color all wrong (if you find any original paint that is).
If it was me I would sell the parts and use it to save up for a decent untouched helmet.
All the parts (pins , liner band , chinstrap) are all authentic WW2.
The shell too of course but as it was silver it was probably a biker helmet at one time. Personally helmets where paint needs to be removed don't hold much interest for me as they will never look like how they should look. The chemicals make the paint color all wrong (if you find any original paint that is).
If it was me I would sell the parts and use it to save up for a decent untouched helmet.
Quote from FLN on January 19, 2022, 10:53 pmHi
So the sum of it's parts is original, that is good to know.
I think I just remove a little more of the black paint, put it together and keep it as is, did not pay much. And I have a NS 68 that is in ok condition.
But what do you think about the helmets history?
A m35Â army helmet that is refurbished, reissued with a single decal and given a new liner back in the day? Is that a fair assessment about this helmet?
Best regards
Max
Hi
So the sum of it's parts is original, that is good to know.
I think I just remove a little more of the black paint, put it together and keep it as is, did not pay much. And I have a NS 68 that is in ok condition.
But what do you think about the helmets history?
A m35Â army helmet that is refurbished, reissued with a single decal and given a new liner back in the day? Is that a fair assessment about this helmet?
Best regards
Max
Quote from Panzerheld on January 20, 2022, 12:12 pmQuote from FLN on January 19, 2022, 10:53 pmHi
So the sum of it's parts is original, that is good to know.
I think I just remove a little more of the black paint, put it together and keep it as is, did not pay much. And I have a NS 68 that is in ok condition.
But what do you think about the helmets history?
A m35Â army helmet that is refurbished, reissued with a single decal and given a new liner back in the day? Is that a fair assessment about this helmet?
Best regards
Max
Hello Max,
I don’t think it matters about this helmets “history” . . . It’s in seriously screwed-up condition . . . and it’s “history” is simple . . .
Was an original WW2 Helmet before 1945
After 1945 is was completely messed with, repainted and effectively worthless . . . unless you sell the parts individually like Frank said
I’ not trying to be rude mate . . . just some helmets aren’t worth worrying about
Michael
Quote from FLN on January 19, 2022, 10:53 pmHi
So the sum of it's parts is original, that is good to know.
I think I just remove a little more of the black paint, put it together and keep it as is, did not pay much. And I have a NS 68 that is in ok condition.
But what do you think about the helmets history?
A m35Â army helmet that is refurbished, reissued with a single decal and given a new liner back in the day? Is that a fair assessment about this helmet?
Best regards
Max
Hello Max,
I don’t think it matters about this helmets “history” . . . It’s in seriously screwed-up condition . . . and it’s “history” is simple . . .
Was an original WW2 Helmet before 1945
After 1945 is was completely messed with, repainted and effectively worthless . . . unless you sell the parts individually like Frank said
I’ not trying to be rude mate . . . just some helmets aren’t worth worrying about
Michael
Quote from FLN on January 20, 2022, 4:38 pmHi
No worries, from a collectors view you are absolutely right. But for me personally I'm into history and learing, what, why and how, the value of the helmet does not concern me.
But I appreciate all your comments and input
Regards
Max
Hi
No worries, from a collectors view you are absolutely right. But for me personally I'm into history and learing, what, why and how, the value of the helmet does not concern me.
But I appreciate all your comments and input
Regards
Max